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In response to Aftab Khan: Muslims do not believe in the Gospels

In response to Aftab Khan: Muslims do not believe in the Gospels

Lee Jay Walker

Global Security News

 

Aftab Khan gave a reply to an article by Nazir S. Bhatti but major inconsistences apply to his reply. This not only applies to the dating of the “authentic Koran” but also other statements which appear to be based on Islamic kitman.

Aftab Khan stated that “The Muslims also believe in the Injeel [Gospel], reveled to Prophet Jesus Christ [pbuh], Torah to Moses [pbuh], Psalm to David [pbuh] and revelations to other prophets. Since these books are claimed to be part of Bible, hence Muslims are obliged to respect it, even if they have reservations or different opinion.”

The Gospels were not revealed to Jesus because the Gospels are about the life of Jesus and His statements, deeds and His ultimate sacrifice for humanity.  Therefore, Aftab Khan should understand that the Gospels are based on the “pure actions” and life of Jesus.

Note how Aftab Khan states at first that “Muslims also believe in the Injeel (Gospel…” but ends by stating that “…hence Muslims are obliged to respect it, even if they have reservations or different opinion.”

Clearly Aftab Khan went from “believe” to “respect” but signing off on “even if they have reservations or different opinion.”  Within one paragraph Aftab Khan changed greatly and this is the problem with Islamic kitman because it does not hold any substance.

The Gospels and New Testament are either true or they are false?

Also, it is obvious that the Koran and Hadiths make many errors from both the Old Testament and New Testament.  Therefore, given the fact that Mohammed does not follow the purity of the New Testament and denies the Gospel message that Jesus was the Son of God then clearly Muslims and Mohammed could not “believe” in the Gospels and nor could they “respect it” because Islam states that Jesus was neither the Son of God nor did He die on the cross.

In other words Islam is saying that the Gospels are lies and this is the problem with Islam because the confusion is great.  Also, it is strange that the Koran and Hadiths state that Jesus was the purest of all men and that He was born special and was taken to heaven after His death.

However, the Koran and Hadiths clearly show Mohammed in a lower light because he was not born special and on his death it was unsure if he went to heaven or not.  More important, the Hadiths tell us that Mohammed married a child, had sex with concubines, enslaved and supported the killing of apostates.

This is strange because the Koran and Hadiths do not say anything negative about the life of Jesus but they paint Mohammed in a bad light.  Therefore, what made Mohammed the greatest prophet when the Koran and Hadiths clearly show that he was a man who married more than 9 wives, married a child, had sex with slave concubines and supported jihad……what is special about any of this?

If Aftab Khan is trying to claim that non-Muslims have equal rights in Pakistan then if this applied it would only be because of secular law.  After all, Aftab Khan knows that according to Islamic Sharia law it is punishable by death for non-Muslims to marry Muslim women. 

Aftab Khan also knows that the Hadiths support killing apostates and in modern day Saudi Arabia all apostates face the death penalty. 

In fact, it is abundantly clear that non-Muslims and Ahmaddiya Muslims are unequal in Pakistan and clearly if a non-Muslim male desired to marry a Muslim female then this would cause uproar. 

Today a young Christian lady in Pakistan faces the death penalty and every day she resides under complete pressure and why Aktab Khan?  Yes, becasue of discrimination and just for mere words in Pakistan you can face the death penalty.

In Pakistan it is clear that the roots of Hinduism and Buddhism were part of the very fabric of what became Pakistan before the Islamic invasions of the Indian subcontinent. However, the de-Hinduization of Pakistan continues and the blasphemy law in Pakistan is aimed at protecting Mohammed and for merely saying something about Mohammed you face the death penalty.

Obviously, if you say something negative about Lord Ram and others then nothing would happen.  Is this the equality that Aftab Khan is talking about?

Finally Answering Islam states the following about the authentic Koran: 

“The other manuscript said to be one of the Uthmanic codices is the one on display in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul. Once again it requires only a sight of the text to discount this possibility as we are again faced with a Kufic manuscript. Then again, like the Samarqand codex, it is written on parchment and is also largely devoid of vocalisation, both of which suggest that it, too, is one of the very earliest manuscripts of the Qur’an to survive, but those who claim that it dates back as far as Uthman himself must explain the obvious anachronism in the use of a Kufic script.”

“This manuscript is also supplemented with ornamental medallions, indicating a later age, with occasional ornamentation between the surahs as well. One only needs to compare it with the Samarqand codex to realise that they most certainly cannot both be Uthmanic originals. The Istanbul codex has eighteen lines to the page whereas the Samarqand codex has between eight and twelve; the Istanbul codex is inscribed throughout in a very formal manner, the words and lines always being very uniformly written out, while the text of the Samarqand codex is often haphazard and considerably distorted. One cannot believe that both these manuscripts were copied out by the same scribes. (As pointed out already, it is hard to believe that even the Samarqand codex alone was not written out by a number of different scribes).”

“An objective, factual study of the evidences shows that neither of these codices can seriously be regarded as Uthmanic, yet one finds that Muslim sentiment is so strong at this point that both of them are said to have been not only Uthmanic originals but even the actual Qur’an which Uthman was reading when he was murdered! A photograph of a page from the Samarqand codex appears as a frontispiece in a book titled Muhammad in the Quraan published in Pakistan by an author who only gives his initials (S.M.A.) and, underneath the photograph, a caption appears clearly identifying it as the Samarqand text now preserved in the Soviet State Library and alleging that “This is the same Quran which was in the hand of the Caliph when he was murdered by the rebels and his blood is still visible on the passage ‘Fasa Yakhfihum (sic) Ullah-o-Wa huwasamiul-Alim’ (Surah 2.137)”.

“In a recent edition of the Ramadan Annual published by The Muslim Digest in Durban, South Africa, however, a photograph appears of the Topkapi Codex in Istanbul, correctly identifying it as such, but alleging that it belonged to Uthman with the comment “This Qur’an, written on deerskin, was being read by the Caliph when he was assassinated and the bloodstain marks are still seen on the pages of this copy of the Qur’an to this day” (Vol. 39, Nos. 9 & 10, p.107).

“It is most intriguing to find that both the manuscripts are not only attributed to Uthman but are alleged to be the very codex in his own possession which he was said to have been reading when he was assassinated. Of course each one has verifiable bloodstains of the Caliph himself to prove the point!”

“It is contradictory statements like these, where the same fame is claimed for each of these codices, that expose the Muslim approach to this subject as one based not on a cautious historical research dependent on available evidences but on popular sentiment and wishful thinking. It would suit the Muslim world to possess an Uthmanic original, it would be convenient to have a codex of the earliest possible origin to verify the proposed textual perfection of the Qur’an, and so any manuscript of the Qur’an surviving that can be shown to be of a relatively early age is automatically claimed to be the one desired! It hardly matters that the same claim is made for more than one codex, or that in each case internal evidence (particularly the Kufic script) must lead an honest enquirer to presume on a much later date.”

“The Samarqand and Topkapi codices are obviously two of the oldest sizeable manuscripts of the Qur’an surviving but their origin cannot be taken back earlier than the second century of Islam. It must be concluded that no such manuscripts of an earlier date have survived. The oldest manuscripts of the Qur’an still in existence date from not earlier than about one hundred years after Muhammad’s death.”

Christians do not need to get into a debate with Muslims about if Mohammed could have visited the furthest mosque during Mohammed’s mystical night journey to Jerusalem; after all, no mosque existed in Jerusalem at this time and the mystical animal that Mohammed flew on also did not exist.

This is merely petty point scoring and all religions “can throw stones” but this is not the point and atheists will deem both Christians and Muslims to be wrong and so forth.

However, what is important is equality and religious freedom based within the legal framework and which is implemented in order to protect all citizens.

It is abundantly clear that Islamic Sharia law does not support equality and in the twenty-first century you still have the death penalty for leaving the Islamic faith in nations like Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, The Maldives, and Yemen.

In other mainly Muslim nations you also have discrimination within family law and so forth.  Therefore, in Egypt it is clear that Coptic Christians face discrimination and the same applies in Pakistan because the blasphemy law in Pakistan is used against all minorities in order to protect the dominance of Islam in Pakistan.

The modern Koran is not a replica of either the Istanbul or Tashkent version and if Aftab Khan is even trying to imply this then clearly he is mistaken because neither are complete and clearly the dating is not based on 19 years afterwards.

Aftab Khan should focus on the reality of modern day Pakistan and he should not bother with Islamic kitman because it does not wash.

In the lands of Mecca and Medina all apostates from Islam face the death penalty and discrimination throughout the Islamic world is rampant.

Ahmaddiya Muslims are only killed and persecuted by Muslims because they have religious freedom in mainly non-Muslim nations. Why?

http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Jam/chap7.html  

http://pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2867 (In reply to this article)

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South Korea and Pakistan: Christianization and democracy and Islamization and hell

South Korea and Pakistan: Christianization and democracy and Islamization and hell

Lee Jay Walker

Modern Tokyo Times

South Korea

The nations of South Korea and Pakistan have very different histories but both nations are relatively young because South Korea is the legacy of a divided Korean peninsula and Pakistan, alongside Bangladesh, have splintered from “mother India.”

In both nations you have seen major religious changes since the middle of the twentieth century.  These changes reflect the religious nature of both nations because Christianity grew rapidly in South Korea and in Pakistan the demise of Hinduism and Sikhism took place quickly because of systematic persecution.

However, Christianity in South Korea grew rapidly because of strong social networks, charities, institutions with an emphasis on social policies, and because Christianity was seen to be modern and democratic.  Therefore, the Buddhist majority succumbed to the rapid growth of Christianity and the religious divide in South Korea is very even between both religions.

Yet, in the political sphere and welfare sector, it is clear that Christian politicians and welfare institutions have bypassed Buddhism in order to change society.  Recently, it appears that conversions have evened out but the South Korea of 60 years ago is very different because around 35 per cent of the population is Christian (estimates vary).

Irrespective of your religious persuasion or if you are not religious; it must be stated that Christianization grew in tandem with democratization and modernization.  Buddhism had a vast period to modernize the Korean peninsula but it failed because of several factors.

However, in Pakistan the Islamization of this nation is based on persecution, hatred, inequality in law; and instead of democratization you have a nation where minorities reside in fear.  It therefore appears that women can be gang raped in tribal areas in Pakistan; Christians can be killed for blasphemy; the Ahmadiyya face systematic persecution and mass hatred; the Shia are deemed un-Muslim by Sunni Islamic zealots; and terrorist attacks are frequent alongside a major drug problem.

The destruction of Hinduism and Sikhism took place because of hatred, persecution, and bigotry.  At the same time, the indigenous culture which existed prior to the Islamic invasions of “mother India” continues to be dismantled and ancient religious architecture is being either destroyed or left to rot.

Christians in South Korea do not want Christian law or to kill non-Christians under draconian blasphemy laws.  Instead, the Christian community wants modernity, economic growth, and opportunities for all citizens and to create a vibrant economy based on high technology and creativity.

However, in Pakistan it is about Islam, Islamic Sharia law, and discriminating against non-Muslim minorities.  It appears that the blasphemy law is more important for the Islamic leadership in Pakistan because the majority say little about honor killings and instead of supporting democracy they want Islam to be central to all institutions.

The reality of the situation in Pakistan and South Korea should be a wake-up call to the entire world.  After all, Muslims in many parts of the world are demanding greater rights and when their numbers increase then some call for Islamization.

India, a nation which is multi-religious and which protected religious minorities like the Zoroastrians from Islamic persecution in Persia, was carved up by the forces of Islam alongside the duplicity of the British government. 

This led to the systematic persecution of the Hindu and Sikh population under a Muslim majority.  Therefore, the traces of Hindu tolerance have been replaced by Islamic fanatics who are bent on persecuting all minorities, keeping women downtrodden and hating diversity.

Not only this; radical Sunni Muslim fanatics have turned on fellow Muslims and moderate Sunni leaders who speak out also face death and persecution.  Therefore, in modern day Pakistan many mosques belonging to the Ahmadiyya, the Shia and Sufi religious places are being attacked and destroyed by the fanatics of Sunni Islam.

The contrast of Christianization in South Korea alongside the Islamization of Pakistan is clearly visible.  Therefore, in South Korea you have a dynamic economy and modernization continues.  However, in Pakistan the Islamization of society means more hatred, more persecution and keeping women firmly in their place.

Islam, in all its reality, is clear for all to see and modern day Pakistan is a land of institutional religious discrimination and the central government is weak because of internal Islamic chaos which is turning on itself.  In contrast, South Korea is growing rapidly and people have religious and democratic freedom.

Heroin is also devastating parts of Pakistan because Muslim warlords desire to control this lucrative market; typical to Islamic morals it appears that alcohol is haram but heroin is ok.  Similarly, if women do not cover up then they face punishment in conservative areas like northwestern Pakistan but it is ok in law to abuse non-Muslim women or to gang-rape Muslim women in tribal areas.

Therefore, while South Korea’s future looks bright it is difficult to say the same about Pakistan.  After all, the only thing that appears to bind Muslim conservatives in Pakistan is hatred and this hatred is unleashed against non-Muslims and Muslim minorities like the Ahmadiyya and Shia.

Holland and France, and other nations with growing Sunni Muslim communities, should be aware; after all, elements within the Sunni Muslim community dream about a future Islamic state in both nations. Also, to the scholars of Islam the theory of democracy is alien unless they are in kitman mode in order to spread Islamic dawah by deceit.

This may seem fanciful but it probably seemed fanciful when Islamic armies invaded India.  After all, India had a much richer history and Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and other faiths, had shared connections despite being diverse faiths.

Hinduism was the “tree” that allowed the branches to “blossom” and the Hindu faith was based on religious freedom. 

Hinduism was fully interwoven within the psyche of India but the Hindu faith which gave the world so much science and highly valued philosophy; was crushed in many parts of “mother India” and the demise of Buddhism fell to the Islamic sword, stealth jihad, Islamic Sharia law and Islamic kitman.

The Hindu faith survived because it refused to bow down to the Islamic onslaught but after the creation of East Pakistan and West Pakistan; then the writing was on the wall because the Muslim masses turned on Hindus and Sikhs, and other minorities, and the religious balance meant that all non-Muslim faiths were in freefall.

Yet what is the 92 per cent Muslim Pakistan?  Well, it is like the virtual 100 per cent Muslim Afghanistan.  That is, it is backward and going more backward and alongside institutional discrimination and hatred you have powerful Islamic movements in both societies which desire to turn both nations into “year Mohammed.”                                                                               

In reality this means a fully fledged and barbaric Sharia Islamic state where apostates from Islam can be killed and women can be stoned to death like modern day Somalia.

In contrast, irrespective if people are unhappy with the Christianization of South Korea; you have a nation which is democratic, prosperous, and where high technology is flourishing.

Academics in lofty Oxford and Harvard can propagate the Islamic faith based on unreality; however, in the real world you have daily honor killings in Pakistan, people can be charged under the barbaric blasphemy law and Islamists desire to stone people to death like in Somalia while chanting “God is great.”

South Korea is moving forward despite a difficult birth and past leadership connections with imperial Japan.  However, Pakistan is moving backward and all non-Muslims and minority Muslims face the wrath of Sunni Islam.

It is time for academics to wake up and for democratic leaders in the West to stop pandering to Saudi Arabia which desires to usurp Western democracy from within.

Either you learn from history or cultures and religions become history?

Islam does not worry about sensibilities when in power and instead it is about more Islamization and the ongoing destruction of other religions and thought patterns.

South Korea and Pakistan may seem like a strange lesson; however, reality is clear for all to see and which nation is going forward and which nation is going backward?

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Islamic fanatics slaughter Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan

 

Islamic fanatics slaughter Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan

Lee Jay Walker  – The Modern Tokyo Times

Radical Islamist and hatred

Radical Islam once more strikes Pakistan because Sunni Islamic fanatics are intent on installing a radical Sunni Islamic monoculture on the people of this nation.  However, in Pakistan you have many diverse Muslim communities, for example Shia Muslims and Ahmadiyya Muslims, and of course you will have many sub-divisions within each branch because of ethnicity or certain factors and you will have many differences within Sunni Islam.

Also, you have other faith groups and this applies to Christianity, Hinduism, and Sikhism.  Despite this, the men of hatred desire to enforce their version of Islam on the entire population, Therefore, Pakistan is being torn apart by the “year zero” mentality of radical Sunni Islam and this can be seen by the recent slaughter in Lahore.

This latest massacre is a continuation of Sunni Islamic hatred which slaughters Christians in Nigeria, kills Buddhists in southern Thailand, and spews it hatred towards all irrespective of the continent you reside in.  It is part of the same evil force which did September 11th and which stones women to death for adultery in Somalia and which kills converts to Christianity in the same land.

Radical Sunni Islamists are at war against humanity and diversity, just like the Islamic past and it is clear that enemies are everywhere.  Therefore, in modern times radical Islamists are killing or persecuting Buddhists (southern Thailand and Bangladesh); killing and persecuting Christians (Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Somalia, and other nations); slaughtering and victimizing minorities like the Shabaks, Mandaeans, and Yazidis in Iraq; and Islamists in Pakistan are also persecuting Hindus and Sikhs.

Therefore, the latest terrorist attack against Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan is a mere continuation of this hatred and the ongoing monoculture which is behind radical Sunni Islam.  Given this, Ahmadiyya Muslims, Christians, Shia Muslims, Hindus, and Sikhs, are all targets of this violent ideology and they are being persecuted in the name of Islam in Pakistan.

Of course certain Western leaders desire to appease radical Islam and this certainly applies to the current leader of America, President Obama.  After all, President Obama bent over backwards in Egypt in order to appease Islam and he clearly did not care about the ongoing victimization and persecution of Coptic Christians who are suffering so much in this land.

Therefore, while the latest slaughter of Ahmadiyya Muslims in Lahore, Pakistan, is shocking and a crime against humanity; it is sadly predictable and for Sunni Islamists their hatred is inspired by the teachings of Mohammed and to them they deem all others to be infidels. 

The death toll at the moment is at least 70 people but it may rise and clearly Sunni Islamists do not care if they slaughter innocents in a mosque.  To them, it is their sacred duty to kill in the name of Allah and if this applies to killing people in a Christian church, a Muslim mosque, a Buddhist temple, or wherever, then it does not concern them.

However, will this latest massacre wake the world up to this evil ideology or will it be appeasement time once more?  I know what I wish but given the current state of affairs then words like “Islamic terrorism” will wound leaders like Obama and writers like Karen Armstrong.

To them, and many others who appease Islamists and the reality of the Koran and the Hadiths, the latest massacre of Ahmadiyya Muslims will mean little.  Therefore, the ongoing Islamic jihad which began with Mohammed will continue against all who refuse to be dhimmis. This jihad will be based on Islamic propaganda, massacres, terrorism, and the duplicity of the West which is reaching out to an ideology which does not seek compromise

Let us remember the words of Tariq Mota who murdered a Muslim cleric called Mohammed Yousaf Ali because this cleric supported religious diversity.  He stated that “I now feel spiritually satisfied. It is the responsibility of every Muslim to kill these infidels.”

If we follow this by the words of Mohammed who stated in Verse 9:73 in the Koran that “O Prophet! Strive hard (wage war) against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, – an evil refuge indeed.” While the Hadith 9:4 states that “Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.

Then it is clear that Islamists are killing in the name of Islam and in the name of crushing all forms of diversity within Islam or the non-Muslim world.  Therefore, this hatred which is inspired by the Koran and the Hadiths will continue to butcher and kill innocents irrespective of your religion or if you have no religion.

 However, when will the so-called elites wake up to this global menace?

 

LEE JAY WALKER

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