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In response to Aftab Khan: Muslims do not believe in the Gospels

In response to Aftab Khan: Muslims do not believe in the Gospels

Lee Jay Walker

Global Security News

 

Aftab Khan gave a reply to an article by Nazir S. Bhatti but major inconsistences apply to his reply. This not only applies to the dating of the “authentic Koran” but also other statements which appear to be based on Islamic kitman.

Aftab Khan stated that “The Muslims also believe in the Injeel [Gospel], reveled to Prophet Jesus Christ [pbuh], Torah to Moses [pbuh], Psalm to David [pbuh] and revelations to other prophets. Since these books are claimed to be part of Bible, hence Muslims are obliged to respect it, even if they have reservations or different opinion.”

The Gospels were not revealed to Jesus because the Gospels are about the life of Jesus and His statements, deeds and His ultimate sacrifice for humanity.  Therefore, Aftab Khan should understand that the Gospels are based on the “pure actions” and life of Jesus.

Note how Aftab Khan states at first that “Muslims also believe in the Injeel (Gospel…” but ends by stating that “…hence Muslims are obliged to respect it, even if they have reservations or different opinion.”

Clearly Aftab Khan went from “believe” to “respect” but signing off on “even if they have reservations or different opinion.”  Within one paragraph Aftab Khan changed greatly and this is the problem with Islamic kitman because it does not hold any substance.

The Gospels and New Testament are either true or they are false?

Also, it is obvious that the Koran and Hadiths make many errors from both the Old Testament and New Testament.  Therefore, given the fact that Mohammed does not follow the purity of the New Testament and denies the Gospel message that Jesus was the Son of God then clearly Muslims and Mohammed could not “believe” in the Gospels and nor could they “respect it” because Islam states that Jesus was neither the Son of God nor did He die on the cross.

In other words Islam is saying that the Gospels are lies and this is the problem with Islam because the confusion is great.  Also, it is strange that the Koran and Hadiths state that Jesus was the purest of all men and that He was born special and was taken to heaven after His death.

However, the Koran and Hadiths clearly show Mohammed in a lower light because he was not born special and on his death it was unsure if he went to heaven or not.  More important, the Hadiths tell us that Mohammed married a child, had sex with concubines, enslaved and supported the killing of apostates.

This is strange because the Koran and Hadiths do not say anything negative about the life of Jesus but they paint Mohammed in a bad light.  Therefore, what made Mohammed the greatest prophet when the Koran and Hadiths clearly show that he was a man who married more than 9 wives, married a child, had sex with slave concubines and supported jihad……what is special about any of this?

If Aftab Khan is trying to claim that non-Muslims have equal rights in Pakistan then if this applied it would only be because of secular law.  After all, Aftab Khan knows that according to Islamic Sharia law it is punishable by death for non-Muslims to marry Muslim women. 

Aftab Khan also knows that the Hadiths support killing apostates and in modern day Saudi Arabia all apostates face the death penalty. 

In fact, it is abundantly clear that non-Muslims and Ahmaddiya Muslims are unequal in Pakistan and clearly if a non-Muslim male desired to marry a Muslim female then this would cause uproar. 

Today a young Christian lady in Pakistan faces the death penalty and every day she resides under complete pressure and why Aktab Khan?  Yes, becasue of discrimination and just for mere words in Pakistan you can face the death penalty.

In Pakistan it is clear that the roots of Hinduism and Buddhism were part of the very fabric of what became Pakistan before the Islamic invasions of the Indian subcontinent. However, the de-Hinduization of Pakistan continues and the blasphemy law in Pakistan is aimed at protecting Mohammed and for merely saying something about Mohammed you face the death penalty.

Obviously, if you say something negative about Lord Ram and others then nothing would happen.  Is this the equality that Aftab Khan is talking about?

Finally Answering Islam states the following about the authentic Koran: 

“The other manuscript said to be one of the Uthmanic codices is the one on display in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul. Once again it requires only a sight of the text to discount this possibility as we are again faced with a Kufic manuscript. Then again, like the Samarqand codex, it is written on parchment and is also largely devoid of vocalisation, both of which suggest that it, too, is one of the very earliest manuscripts of the Qur’an to survive, but those who claim that it dates back as far as Uthman himself must explain the obvious anachronism in the use of a Kufic script.”

“This manuscript is also supplemented with ornamental medallions, indicating a later age, with occasional ornamentation between the surahs as well. One only needs to compare it with the Samarqand codex to realise that they most certainly cannot both be Uthmanic originals. The Istanbul codex has eighteen lines to the page whereas the Samarqand codex has between eight and twelve; the Istanbul codex is inscribed throughout in a very formal manner, the words and lines always being very uniformly written out, while the text of the Samarqand codex is often haphazard and considerably distorted. One cannot believe that both these manuscripts were copied out by the same scribes. (As pointed out already, it is hard to believe that even the Samarqand codex alone was not written out by a number of different scribes).”

“An objective, factual study of the evidences shows that neither of these codices can seriously be regarded as Uthmanic, yet one finds that Muslim sentiment is so strong at this point that both of them are said to have been not only Uthmanic originals but even the actual Qur’an which Uthman was reading when he was murdered! A photograph of a page from the Samarqand codex appears as a frontispiece in a book titled Muhammad in the Quraan published in Pakistan by an author who only gives his initials (S.M.A.) and, underneath the photograph, a caption appears clearly identifying it as the Samarqand text now preserved in the Soviet State Library and alleging that “This is the same Quran which was in the hand of the Caliph when he was murdered by the rebels and his blood is still visible on the passage ‘Fasa Yakhfihum (sic) Ullah-o-Wa huwasamiul-Alim’ (Surah 2.137)”.

“In a recent edition of the Ramadan Annual published by The Muslim Digest in Durban, South Africa, however, a photograph appears of the Topkapi Codex in Istanbul, correctly identifying it as such, but alleging that it belonged to Uthman with the comment “This Qur’an, written on deerskin, was being read by the Caliph when he was assassinated and the bloodstain marks are still seen on the pages of this copy of the Qur’an to this day” (Vol. 39, Nos. 9 & 10, p.107).

“It is most intriguing to find that both the manuscripts are not only attributed to Uthman but are alleged to be the very codex in his own possession which he was said to have been reading when he was assassinated. Of course each one has verifiable bloodstains of the Caliph himself to prove the point!”

“It is contradictory statements like these, where the same fame is claimed for each of these codices, that expose the Muslim approach to this subject as one based not on a cautious historical research dependent on available evidences but on popular sentiment and wishful thinking. It would suit the Muslim world to possess an Uthmanic original, it would be convenient to have a codex of the earliest possible origin to verify the proposed textual perfection of the Qur’an, and so any manuscript of the Qur’an surviving that can be shown to be of a relatively early age is automatically claimed to be the one desired! It hardly matters that the same claim is made for more than one codex, or that in each case internal evidence (particularly the Kufic script) must lead an honest enquirer to presume on a much later date.”

“The Samarqand and Topkapi codices are obviously two of the oldest sizeable manuscripts of the Qur’an surviving but their origin cannot be taken back earlier than the second century of Islam. It must be concluded that no such manuscripts of an earlier date have survived. The oldest manuscripts of the Qur’an still in existence date from not earlier than about one hundred years after Muhammad’s death.”

Christians do not need to get into a debate with Muslims about if Mohammed could have visited the furthest mosque during Mohammed’s mystical night journey to Jerusalem; after all, no mosque existed in Jerusalem at this time and the mystical animal that Mohammed flew on also did not exist.

This is merely petty point scoring and all religions “can throw stones” but this is not the point and atheists will deem both Christians and Muslims to be wrong and so forth.

However, what is important is equality and religious freedom based within the legal framework and which is implemented in order to protect all citizens.

It is abundantly clear that Islamic Sharia law does not support equality and in the twenty-first century you still have the death penalty for leaving the Islamic faith in nations like Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, The Maldives, and Yemen.

In other mainly Muslim nations you also have discrimination within family law and so forth.  Therefore, in Egypt it is clear that Coptic Christians face discrimination and the same applies in Pakistan because the blasphemy law in Pakistan is used against all minorities in order to protect the dominance of Islam in Pakistan.

The modern Koran is not a replica of either the Istanbul or Tashkent version and if Aftab Khan is even trying to imply this then clearly he is mistaken because neither are complete and clearly the dating is not based on 19 years afterwards.

Aftab Khan should focus on the reality of modern day Pakistan and he should not bother with Islamic kitman because it does not wash.

In the lands of Mecca and Medina all apostates from Islam face the death penalty and discrimination throughout the Islamic world is rampant.

Ahmaddiya Muslims are only killed and persecuted by Muslims because they have religious freedom in mainly non-Muslim nations. Why?

http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Jam/chap7.html  

http://pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2867 (In reply to this article)

http://www.answering-islam.org

http://global-security-news.com (please visit) 

 

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Killing Christians in Somalia, burning Bibles in Pakistan and stealth jihad

Killing Christians in Somalia, burning Bibles in Pakistan and stealth jihad
 
Lee Jay Walker
  
The Modern Tokyo Times

Mansuur Mohammed a Christian convert was beheaded by Sunni Muslims who recited the Koran
Christian convert was beheaded by Sunni Muslims
 in Somalia while they recited the Koran
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The mass media and the political correct are in a spin because they cry “Islamophobia” but in the real world it is the followers of Islam who are slaughtering Christians in Somalia and it is only the Islamic faith which continues to kill apostates.  Therefore, you had mass coverage about a pastor who was going to burn the Koran but you have a virtual silence about the annihilation of Christianity in Somalia and the burning of Bibles in Pakistan.

In truth, the Islamists are clearly winning the media war and the political correct, trendy left, and mass of liberals are at odds with what they believe in.  After all, the religion which supports the stoning to death of homosexuals and which enforces women to remain in the shadows is being mollycoddled by a plethora of “well meaning hypocrites.”  Therefore, it appears that killing Christians in Somalia is fine because we must not upset the religion of Islam and the same applies to burning Bibles in Pakistan.
 
It is striking by the amount of political pressure and media pressure which was put on one single pastor, who in truth had no political or religious power, but became a household name in order to show how evil parts of America are.  This suited the “Islamophobia” agenda and political leaders like President Obama joined the bandwagon and once more the religion of Islam became “the innocent victim.”
 
Yet what about the burning of Bibles in Pakistan or the ongoing witch-hunt in Somalia where the Sunni Islamic al-Shabaab (al-Shabab) desire to kill all Christians; does this count?  It would appear not because these problems are ongoing and just like the persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt or the continuing destruction of Christianity in Iraq ,you hear little about this in the mass media.
 
Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, President of Pakistan Christian Congress (PCC), condemned and rebuked the attack against the Nasri Pentecostal Church which took place on September 18th, 2010.
 
He stated thatThe Sindh government must adopt necessary security measures of Churches and bring accused before justice to those who burnt Holy Bibles and vandalized (the) Church in Shah Latif Town.”  Dr. Nazir S. Bhatti and fellow workers at the Pakistan Christian Post work around the clock (http://pakistanchristianpost.com) in order to highlight and campaign for all minorities in Pakistan.
 
Despite this, while the “trendy brigade” and “political correct” pat themselves on the back about supporting the Islamic faith and showing how tolerant “our Western societies are.”  They remain mainly silent about reports which highlight the rape of Christian females in Egypt and the forced conversion of these Christian females by their Muslim rapists.  Sadly the same brutal method of rape against Christian and Hindu females in Pakistan by Muslims is also a disturbing reality but you have no demonstrations nor is the mass media “sinking their teeth” into issues like this.
 
Therefore, we have a strange “mirror” which is being told by the majority of the mass media. On the one hand we are told that Islam means peace but we know that all apostates face death in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, the Maldives, and a few other nations. Even in so-called moderate nations like Egypt, prison awaits the apostate from Islam and the family court system in Egypt clearly discriminates against all Christians in divorce cases involving children.
 
The sad reality is simple and it applies to the “dhimmis” bending over backwards in order to appease the Islamic agenda of stealth jihad.  After all, Muslims are free to build their mosques all over America, India, the United Kingdom, and in other democratic nations. 
 
However, people do have genuine fears when they know that Christians have been burnt alive in Pakistan; Christian pastors have been beheaded in Nigeria; Hindu and Christian females have been raped in Pakistan; apostates to Christianity are being killed in Somalia; the Christian community in Iraq is under siege; Buddhists are killed and persecuted in southern Thailand; the Ahmadiyya suffer systematic persecution in Pakistan; the Baha’is reside in fear in Iran; and the list is endless.
 
Remember, all religions will have fanatics but the persecution of Christians in Somalia is being done by a mass terrorist organization called the al-Shabaab (al-Shabab) and the government of Somalia also supports discrimination because Islamic Sharia law supports the death of apostates.  The same applies to Pakistan because Ahmadiyya Muslims, Christians, and others, reside in fear because of the blasphemy law which is punishable by death in this nation.
 
Therefore, the media highlights one pastor in America and condemns him and the same applies to senior political leaders.  Yet we have silence when Christians are being beheaded while Muslims recite the Koran and shout “Allah Akbar” while killing someone in such a brutal way. 
 
Given this, it is clear that systematic persecution in Muslim nations against all non-Muslims in societies like Saudi Arabia is tolerated. The same applies to this nation spreading Islam by funding Islamic mosques, Islamic colleges, Islamic newspapers, Islamic think tanks, and so forth, in order to further stealth jihad.
 
In the last 20 years we have witnessed the Islamization of the Chittagong Hill Tracts where tribals, the majority being Buddhist, have suffered mass Muslim migration from other parts of Bangladesh and systematic persecution.  The same process of Islamization took place in Kashmir because Hindus and other minorities were forced to flee and the same is happening in Kosovo against Orthodox Christianity and Buddhists in southern Thailand face the same fate.
 
These tragedies, and many others that I have not mentioned, are all part and parcel of Islamization.  After all, Islam is vibrant in India because this nation is secular and democratic but de-Hinduization is ongoing in Bangladesh and Pakistan. 
 
Therefore, non-Muslims are faced with a “two-edged sword” and this applies to systematic persecution in the vast majority of all mainly Muslim nations.  At the same time, the Muslim population continues to grow in Western Europe, North America, and in nations like India because of democracy, liberal values towards religion, Islamic kitman, open-minded immigration policies, and massive funding from nations like Saudi Arabia.
 
It is abundantly clear that Saudi Arabia is determined to spread the Islamic faith irrespective if by militancy or by stealth jihad which is based on playing “the victim card” and reinventing Islam to suit the long-term agenda. Given this, the systematic persecution of Christians in Somalia and open discrimination in Pakistan is ignored because other factors are at play. 
 
I stated in my article called Somalia and the reality of radical Islam that “….in modern day Somalia it is open season for killing Christians, killing Muslim apostates, and stoning people to death for adultery. Other draconian measures have also been implemented and chopping the hands off small time criminals is deemed to be a religious duty. Also, strict dress codes are getting even stricter and women have to remain in the shadows.”
 
I also stated in another article called Nigeria and Christian martyrs after several Christian pastors were beheaded by Islamic fanatics in Nigeria that “This madness will never end if appeasement is the answer or if political leaders like Obama, the President of America, make false statements about the real nature of aspects of Islam. I should also stress that “important and deadly facts about the Islamic faith are not being told.” However, Islamists are doing this carnage in the first place because of their deep knowledge of Islam and because killing apostates, forcing minorities into dhimmitude, and declaring jihad is all sanctioned by Mohammed and the Islamic faith.” 
 
It is clear that in the modern world that many political elites, the mass media, major non-Muslim religious leaders, educational institutions, and so forth, alongside the political correct brigade, are playing into the hands of the Islamic agenda.
 
This agenda was laid down by Mohammed himself and it is part and parcel of Islam and organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood must be “washing their hands” at the naivety of many.  Therefore, the killing of Christians in Somalia is rarely mentioned and the same applies to the systematic persecution of Ahmadiyya Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, and other minorities in Pakistan.
 
Until senior elites and religious leaders speak out against the brutality of Islamic Sharia law and the true message of Mohammed then little will change in the Muslim world.  However, what will change, is that the power of Islam will grow in Western Europe, North America, India, and other parts of the world and so many factors will enable this, including the betrayal and collective amnesia of the mass media and political elites who have their own agenda.
 
The persecution of Christians in Somalia and all religious minorities in Pakistan is also reaching closer to home.  After all, the London bombings and the Pakistan connection is clear for all to see and many Somali migrants in America have returned to Somalia in order to kill Christians and stone women to death for adultery.
 
The principle of secularism and liberalism is falling on deaf ears because Islamists have freedom to kill in distant lands like Somalia and Pakistan. While closer to home in nations like the UK and America they can indoctrinate and spread the message of hate and work alongside liberal Muslims because this dual agenda is about stealth jihad and Islamization at any cost.
 
Every time a Christian is killed in Somalia or when a Hindu woman or Christian woman is raped in Pakistan and this is met by global silence or indifference.  Then this is a victory for Islamists because they understand that “their brutality” is being met “by weakness or indifference.”
 
I am alarmed by the current reality of stealth jihad at home and systematic persecution of religious minorities and women in the mainly Muslim world.  It appears that the side of hate and slavery via dhimmitude and persecution is winning because of many factors.  Are you not alarmed?
 
Lee Jay Walker
 
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com
 
http://themoderntokyotimes.wordpress.com
 
http://www.tu.tv/videos/decapitacion-de-el-somali-mansuur-mohamm   (This video is very chilling and please do not watch if it will upset you.  The video clearly shows the beheading of Mansuur Mohammed who converted to Christianity and again note how Muslims were reciting the Koran and how they believed that they had done Allah’s work. 
Mohammed the prophet of Islam stated that all apostates must be killed.
 

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